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		<title>Comment on What if a 3 Corinthians Was Found? by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if it indeed was authentic...it would be of great value. It should be looked at carefully with 1 &amp; 2 Corinthians side by side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if it indeed was authentic&#8230;it would be of great value. It should be looked at carefully with 1 &amp; 2 Corinthians side by side.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Top 10 Worst Church Websites Ever by Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.shrinkthechurch.com/2010/04/top-10-worst-church-websites-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-1763</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check the job the poor Administrative Assistant has to do...http://lifeatvictory.com/employment/</description>
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		<title>Comment on Top 10 Worst Church Websites Ever by dswisher</title>
		<link>http://www.shrinkthechurch.com/2010/04/top-10-worst-church-websites-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-1762</link>
		<dc:creator>dswisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 03:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s start with #1: Trinity Episcopal Church (Woodbridge, NJ)
Where do I begin? For starters, the header graphic is dizzyingly blurry and the background repeating graphic is just annoying and distracting.

The calendar content framed section
 is a nice attempt, but it doesn&#039;t function well - and uses terms that 
most website visitors won&#039;t be familiar with: Holy Eucharist, Gamblers 
Anon, etc.

Prominent on the page is an image of the Episcopal Church&#039;s logo that is so low-resolution
 that it looks like it was run on a dot matrix computer, and it has a 
white bounding box that just glares &quot;we don&#039;t know what we&#039;re doing.&quot; 
Worse, it has quite a few nice looking ads for ministries completely 
unrelated to the church (presumeably how they fund their &quot;free&quot; website)
 and these all look significantly better than the church&#039;s own 
offerings.

Is the average website visitor going to know (or care 
about) whether they&#039;re a part of the &quot;world-wide Anglican Communion&quot; or 
what diocese or parish they&#039;re a
 part of? This does matter, but why put this front and center on the 
homepage as the only meaningful content? Better to have a link that 
says, &quot;About our Church&quot; and on that page give a text description of its
 affiliations and connections.

The News and Events page, like the other information links, just stacks one piece of information on another, making it extremely lengthy and wordy and difficult to
 navigate (scroll, scroll, scroll), and most of the links and 
news/events mentioned use full text names but nothing of practical 
value - for example, what is a &quot;Shrove Tuesday Pancake Supper&quot; and what 
is the &quot;Trinity Parish Herald&quot; (is that the newsletter? if so, why not 
just say, &quot;download our newsletter&quot;)

The &quot;Tour of Windows&quot;
 is an interesting feature revealing the character of the building and 
its congregation, but once there, the image links are broken.

The
 message I get from this website is &quot;We have 300 years of tradition in 
an historic (translate: &#039;old&#039;) building, care very much about our 
Anglican and diocesan connections (but have no clue what I need and no 
interest in serving it). We know we&#039;re supposed to have a website, but 
we have no clue why or how to do it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s start with #1: Trinity Episcopal Church (Woodbridge, NJ)<br />
Where do I begin? For starters, the header graphic is dizzyingly blurry and the background repeating graphic is just annoying and distracting.</p>
<p>The calendar content framed section<br />
 is a nice attempt, but it doesn&#8217;t function well &#8211; and uses terms that<br />
most website visitors won&#8217;t be familiar with: Holy Eucharist, Gamblers<br />
Anon, etc.</p>
<p>Prominent on the page is an image of the Episcopal Church&#8217;s logo that is so low-resolution<br />
 that it looks like it was run on a dot matrix computer, and it has a<br />
white bounding box that just glares &#8220;we don&#8217;t know what we&#8217;re doing.&#8221;<br />
Worse, it has quite a few nice looking ads for ministries completely<br />
unrelated to the church (presumeably how they fund their &#8220;free&#8221; website)<br />
 and these all look significantly better than the church&#8217;s own<br />
offerings.</p>
<p>Is the average website visitor going to know (or care<br />
about) whether they&#8217;re a part of the &#8220;world-wide Anglican Communion&#8221; or<br />
what diocese or parish they&#8217;re a<br />
 part of? This does matter, but why put this front and center on the<br />
homepage as the only meaningful content? Better to have a link that<br />
says, &#8220;About our Church&#8221; and on that page give a text description of its<br />
 affiliations and connections.</p>
<p>The News and Events page, like the other information links, just stacks one piece of information on another, making it extremely lengthy and wordy and difficult to<br />
 navigate (scroll, scroll, scroll), and most of the links and<br />
news/events mentioned use full text names but nothing of practical<br />
value &#8211; for example, what is a &#8220;Shrove Tuesday Pancake Supper&#8221; and what<br />
is the &#8220;Trinity Parish Herald&#8221; (is that the newsletter? if so, why not<br />
just say, &#8220;download our newsletter&#8221;)</p>
<p>The &#8220;Tour of Windows&#8221;<br />
 is an interesting feature revealing the character of the building and<br />
its congregation, but once there, the image links are broken.</p>
<p>The<br />
 message I get from this website is &#8220;We have 300 years of tradition in<br />
an historic (translate: &#8216;old&#8217;) building, care very much about our<br />
Anglican and diocesan connections (but have no clue what I need and no<br />
interest in serving it). We know we&#8217;re supposed to have a website, but<br />
we have no clue why or how to do it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Top 10 Worst Church Websites Ever by dswisher</title>
		<link>http://www.shrinkthechurch.com/2010/04/top-10-worst-church-websites-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-1761</link>
		<dc:creator>dswisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 03:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s start with #1: Trinity Episcopal Church (Woodbridge, NJ)
Where do I begin? For starters, the header graphic is dizzyingly blurry and the background repeating graphic is just annoying and distracting.

The calendar content framed section
 is a nice attempt, but it doesn&#039;t function well - and uses terms that 
most website visitors won&#039;t be familiar with: Holy Eucharist, Gamblers 
Anon, etc.

Prominent on the page is an image of the Episcopal Church&#039;s logo that is so low-resolution
 that it looks like it was run on a dot matrix computer, and it has a 
white bounding box that just glares &quot;we don&#039;t know what we&#039;re doing.&quot; 
Worse, it has quite a few nice looking ads for ministries completely 
unrelated to the church (presumeably how they fund their &quot;free&quot; website)
 and these all look significantly better than the church&#039;s own 
offerings.

Is the average website visitor going to know (or care 
about) whether they&#039;re a part of the &quot;world-wide Anglican Communion&quot; or 
what diocese or parish they&#039;re a
 part of? This does matter, but why put this front and center on the 
homepage as the only meaningful content? Better to have a link that 
says, &quot;About our Church&quot; and on that page give a text description of its
 affiliations and connections.

The News and Events page, like the other information links, just stacks one piece of information on another, making it extremely lengthy and wordy and difficult to
 navigate (scroll, scroll, scroll), and most of the links and 
news/events mentioned use full text names but nothing of practical 
value - for example, what is a &quot;Shrove Tuesday Pancake Supper&quot; and what 
is the &quot;Trinity Parish Herald&quot; (is that the newsletter? if so, why not 
just say, &quot;download our newsletter&quot;)

The &quot;Tour of Windows&quot;
 is an interesting feature revealing the character of the building and 
its congregation, but once there, the image links are broken.

The
 message I get from this website is &quot;We have 300 years of tradition in 
an historic (translate: &#039;old&#039;) building, care very much about our 
Anglican and diocesan connections (but have no clue what I need and no 
interest in serving it). We know we&#039;re supposed to have a website, but 
we have no clue why or how to do it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s start with #1: Trinity Episcopal Church (Woodbridge, NJ)<br />
Where do I begin? For starters, the header graphic is dizzyingly blurry and the background repeating graphic is just annoying and distracting.</p>
<p>The calendar content framed section<br />
 is a nice attempt, but it doesn&#8217;t function well &#8211; and uses terms that<br />
most website visitors won&#8217;t be familiar with: Holy Eucharist, Gamblers<br />
Anon, etc.</p>
<p>Prominent on the page is an image of the Episcopal Church&#8217;s logo that is so low-resolution<br />
 that it looks like it was run on a dot matrix computer, and it has a<br />
white bounding box that just glares &#8220;we don&#8217;t know what we&#8217;re doing.&#8221;<br />
Worse, it has quite a few nice looking ads for ministries completely<br />
unrelated to the church (presumeably how they fund their &#8220;free&#8221; website)<br />
 and these all look significantly better than the church&#8217;s own<br />
offerings.</p>
<p>Is the average website visitor going to know (or care<br />
about) whether they&#8217;re a part of the &#8220;world-wide Anglican Communion&#8221; or<br />
what diocese or parish they&#8217;re a<br />
 part of? This does matter, but why put this front and center on the<br />
homepage as the only meaningful content? Better to have a link that<br />
says, &#8220;About our Church&#8221; and on that page give a text description of its<br />
 affiliations and connections.</p>
<p>The News and Events page, like the other information links, just stacks one piece of information on another, making it extremely lengthy and wordy and difficult to<br />
 navigate (scroll, scroll, scroll), and most of the links and<br />
news/events mentioned use full text names but nothing of practical<br />
value &#8211; for example, what is a &#8220;Shrove Tuesday Pancake Supper&#8221; and what<br />
is the &#8220;Trinity Parish Herald&#8221; (is that the newsletter? if so, why not<br />
just say, &#8220;download our newsletter&#8221;)</p>
<p>The &#8220;Tour of Windows&#8221;<br />
 is an interesting feature revealing the character of the building and<br />
its congregation, but once there, the image links are broken.</p>
<p>The<br />
 message I get from this website is &#8220;We have 300 years of tradition in<br />
an historic (translate: &#8216;old&#8217;) building, care very much about our<br />
Anglican and diocesan connections (but have no clue what I need and no<br />
interest in serving it). We know we&#8217;re supposed to have a website, but<br />
we have no clue why or how to do it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Top 10 Worst Church Websites Ever by dswisher</title>
		<link>http://www.shrinkthechurch.com/2010/04/top-10-worst-church-websites-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-1760</link>
		<dc:creator>dswisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 03:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s start with #1: Trinity Episcopal Church (Woodbridge, NJ)
Where do I begin? For starters, the header graphic is dizzyingly blurry and the background repeating graphic is just annoying and distracting.

The calendar content framed section
 is a nice attempt, but it doesn&#039;t function well - and uses terms that 
most website visitors won&#039;t be familiar with: Holy Eucharist, Gamblers 
Anon, etc.

Prominent on the page is an image of the Episcopal Church&#039;s logo that is so low-resolution
 that it looks like it was run on a dot matrix computer, and it has a 
white bounding box that just glares &quot;we don&#039;t know what we&#039;re doing.&quot; 
Worse, it has quite a few nice looking ads for ministries completely 
unrelated to the church (presumeably how they fund their &quot;free&quot; website)
 and these all look significantly better than the church&#039;s own 
offerings.

Is the average website visitor going to know (or care 
about) whether they&#039;re a part of the &quot;world-wide Anglican Communion&quot; or 
what diocese or parish they&#039;re a
 part of? This does matter, but why put this front and center on the 
homepage as the only meaningful content? Better to have a link that 
says, &quot;About our Church&quot; and on that page give a text description of its
 affiliations and connections.

The News and Events page, like the other information links, just stacks one piece of information on another, making it extremely lengthy and wordy and difficult to
 navigate (scroll, scroll, scroll), and most of the links and 
news/events mentioned use full text names but nothing of practical 
value - for example, what is a &quot;Shrove Tuesday Pancake Supper&quot; and what 
is the &quot;Trinity Parish Herald&quot; (is that the newsletter? if so, why not 
just say, &quot;download our newsletter&quot;)

The &quot;Tour of Windows&quot;
 is an interesting feature revealing the character of the building and 
its congregation, but once there, the image links are broken.

The
 message I get from this website is &quot;We have 300 years of tradition in 
an historic (translate: &#039;old&#039;) building, care very much about our 
Anglican and diocesan connections (but have no clue what I need and no 
interest in serving it). We know we&#039;re supposed to have a website, but 
we have no clue why or how to do it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s start with #1: Trinity Episcopal Church (Woodbridge, NJ)<br />
Where do I begin? For starters, the header graphic is dizzyingly blurry and the background repeating graphic is just annoying and distracting.</p>
<p>The calendar content framed section<br />
 is a nice attempt, but it doesn&#8217;t function well &#8211; and uses terms that<br />
most website visitors won&#8217;t be familiar with: Holy Eucharist, Gamblers<br />
Anon, etc.</p>
<p>Prominent on the page is an image of the Episcopal Church&#8217;s logo that is so low-resolution<br />
 that it looks like it was run on a dot matrix computer, and it has a<br />
white bounding box that just glares &#8220;we don&#8217;t know what we&#8217;re doing.&#8221;<br />
Worse, it has quite a few nice looking ads for ministries completely<br />
unrelated to the church (presumeably how they fund their &#8220;free&#8221; website)<br />
 and these all look significantly better than the church&#8217;s own<br />
offerings.</p>
<p>Is the average website visitor going to know (or care<br />
about) whether they&#8217;re a part of the &#8220;world-wide Anglican Communion&#8221; or<br />
what diocese or parish they&#8217;re a<br />
 part of? This does matter, but why put this front and center on the<br />
homepage as the only meaningful content? Better to have a link that<br />
says, &#8220;About our Church&#8221; and on that page give a text description of its<br />
 affiliations and connections.</p>
<p>The News and Events page, like the other information links, just stacks one piece of information on another, making it extremely lengthy and wordy and difficult to<br />
 navigate (scroll, scroll, scroll), and most of the links and<br />
news/events mentioned use full text names but nothing of practical<br />
value &#8211; for example, what is a &#8220;Shrove Tuesday Pancake Supper&#8221; and what<br />
is the &#8220;Trinity Parish Herald&#8221; (is that the newsletter? if so, why not<br />
just say, &#8220;download our newsletter&#8221;)</p>
<p>The &#8220;Tour of Windows&#8221;<br />
 is an interesting feature revealing the character of the building and<br />
its congregation, but once there, the image links are broken.</p>
<p>The<br />
 message I get from this website is &#8220;We have 300 years of tradition in<br />
an historic (translate: &#8216;old&#8217;) building, care very much about our<br />
Anglican and diocesan connections (but have no clue what I need and no<br />
interest in serving it). We know we&#8217;re supposed to have a website, but<br />
we have no clue why or how to do it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Coexist by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.shrinkthechurch.com/2012/01/coexist/comment-page-1/#comment-1759</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 12:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always taken it to mean &quot;don&#039;t kill each other&quot; and &quot;be kind to one another&quot; despite our differences.

Your last paragraph seems to imply that you&#039;re OK with violence in the name of religion.  Otherwise, why use different religions compared to different species?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always taken it to mean &#8220;don&#8217;t kill each other&#8221; and &#8220;be kind to one another&#8221; despite our differences.</p>
<p>Your last paragraph seems to imply that you&#8217;re OK with violence in the name of religion.  Otherwise, why use different religions compared to different species?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Seeker-Sensitive Church &amp; Rocky Ground by Matthew Cherry</title>
		<link>http://www.shrinkthechurch.com/2012/01/the-seeker-sensitive-church-rocky-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-1758</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Cherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 03:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comment box is quite small. 

I was never speaking about scripture.  Only the culture of the church matching the culture of our society.  We no longer say &quot;thou&quot; at our church, because our culture no longer says it.  So our leadership has the option to still speak, dress and sing 15 years behind our culture, and sadly, many still do - without the seeker in mind.  

Seeker Sensitive says &quot;Come as you are&quot; 

Seeker Sensitive has relevant, modern graphic design. 

Seeker Sensitive is allowed to wear jeans and use Ikea lights on stage.

Seeker Sensitive isn&#039;t scared to call it a stage.

Seeker Sensitive doesn&#039;t like Religion, but loves people and points them to Jesus.

All that phrase has ever meant to me, is we think about seekers as we design our services and weekly activities. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment box is quite small. </p>
<p>I was never speaking about scripture.  Only the culture of the church matching the culture of our society.  We no longer say &#8220;thou&#8221; at our church, because our culture no longer says it.  So our leadership has the option to still speak, dress and sing 15 years behind our culture, and sadly, many still do &#8211; without the seeker in mind.  </p>
<p>Seeker Sensitive says &#8220;Come as you are&#8221; </p>
<p>Seeker Sensitive has relevant, modern graphic design. </p>
<p>Seeker Sensitive is allowed to wear jeans and use Ikea lights on stage.</p>
<p>Seeker Sensitive isn&#8217;t scared to call it a stage.</p>
<p>Seeker Sensitive doesn&#8217;t like Religion, but loves people and points them to Jesus.</p>
<p>All that phrase has ever meant to me, is we think about seekers as we design our services and weekly activities.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Seeker-Sensitive Church &amp; Rocky Ground by Brian Kaufman</title>
		<link>http://www.shrinkthechurch.com/2012/01/the-seeker-sensitive-church-rocky-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-1757</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kaufman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again good points, but it seems misleading and an insult to scripture to parallel &quot;relevant&quot; and &quot;understandable&quot; in the same sentence.  I would argue that scripture is written to be clear and timeless, and by trying to find a new angle or otherwise augment scripture to try and make it relevant is unnecessary.

I would also like to point out that 1/2&quot; bevel and feather on an image has always been ugly. A mass of non-graphic designers discovered Photoshop filters and lost their minds. :) 

Thanks for continuing this conversation with me. I&#039;m interested to see if anyone else will jump in with their thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again good points, but it seems misleading and an insult to scripture to parallel &#8220;relevant&#8221; and &#8220;understandable&#8221; in the same sentence.  I would argue that scripture is written to be clear and timeless, and by trying to find a new angle or otherwise augment scripture to try and make it relevant is unnecessary.</p>
<p>I would also like to point out that 1/2&#8243; bevel and feather on an image has always been ugly. A mass of non-graphic designers discovered Photoshop filters and lost their minds. :) </p>
<p>Thanks for continuing this conversation with me. I&#8217;m interested to see if anyone else will jump in with their thoughts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Tis the Season (for me) to Give Up Facebook by Matthew Cherry</title>
		<link>http://www.shrinkthechurch.com/2011/11/tis-the-season-for-me-to-give-up-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-1756</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Cherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 21:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic.  I deleted my Facebook, new years eve, for all these reasons.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic.  I deleted my Facebook, new years eve, for all these reasons. </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Seeker-Sensitive Church &amp; Rocky Ground by Matthew Cherry</title>
		<link>http://www.shrinkthechurch.com/2012/01/the-seeker-sensitive-church-rocky-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-1755</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Cherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 21:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I brought up my wife&#039;s grandfather only because he is angered by the church I attend for all the reasons we are called Seeker-Sensitive&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I brought up my wife&#8217;s grandfather only because he is angered by the church I attend for all the reasons we are called Seeker-Sensitive&#8221;.</p>
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